Ulduar 25 with a mistake Leroy and a whining player stuck on repeat

A busy life (deadlines, deadlines) has made me play less WoW the last week but yesterday we teamed up with another guild to do Ulduar 25. Our guild is not a small guild but since it's quite casual it's hard for us to get enough (reasonably geared) people together for 25 man runs.

I think raiding with another guild is a good idea. I think it will be more fun when we get used to each other though. In my opinion last night's run was a bit of a struggle. Partly this had to do with me having huge disconnection problems on Razorscale which made me feel like the lousiest healer in WoW but it had also to do with our guilds behaving diferent from each other. For example the players from the other guild were constantly speaking on Vent. They discussed this and that and before boss fights and even in between mobs it took forever to get going. It sounds boring when I'm writing it but in our guild we don't tend to chat that much all the time.

To be fair I think things dragging out in time partly had to do with the raid leader not raid leading very much. I think this was due to him not knowing tactics very well but in my opinion that actually might be okey if there are other people who can explain to the people who don't know what to do. But as a raid leader it is important to ensure that the raid stays focused an keep the pace up so you don't just stand around in 20 minutes before a fight waiting for everyone to voice their opinions about he best way of doing things or asking yet again who is the tank and who is going to heal whom.

At the end of the night I also got seriously annoyed with one person's attitude. We had (surprise) been standing around in the antechamber of Ulduar for quite some time discussing yeat again which mob in the group of four to sheep, banish etc and then changed to kill one of the tall guys (an overseer?) walking back and forth first. In all the talking one of our hunters thought he heard someone say to pull so he did. Noone was ready and we wiped.

I admit this was clumsy and as someone pointed out, you should only start when the raid leader (or possibly the main tank) tells you to but it was an honest mistake, due mostly to I think the late hour and maybe all the waiting made him hear only the things he wanted to hear and he apologized from the bottom of his heart for his mistake.

But one person in the group just couldn't let go. First he said he didn't like wiping because of stupid mistakes like this (fair enough, who does?) but then he kept going on and on saying ovber and over again how stupid he thought it was pulling like that and that was not a mistake to be done in a 25 man raid and that he really hated when people pulled just because they thought it fun....and that was the point when I got really pissed off because the hunter pulling by mistake is my husband and knowing him, he would never, ever wipe a raid for fun. Also the complaining player kept saying he wasn't complaining just because he was mad or grumpy but he just thought it was so stupid and how could a person do a thing like that he wondered but seriously he wasn't mad if it was a mistake so be it but well he just didn't understand how someone could have been doing such a mistake really, it was so stupid....In fact he went on about in the same fashion on and off until the raid was called off and the last thing I heard when signing off vent he was telling everyone that he couldn't understand how anyone could make such a mistake (if that's what it was), he didn't want unecessary repair bills because because people were stupid and shouldn't you expect more of people in a 25 man raid group?

It's always a joy to raid with players who are perfect. Not to mention tolerant to us non perfect human beings.